From: David Payne
Sent: 10 January 2009 09:07
To:
Wendy; Andrew Winfrow; Brigid Newlands; Sheila Rankin
Cc: Carole Lister; Chris Hazell; David Hall; John Ward; Nikki
Farley; Paul Bradley; Philip Prince; Steve Foran
Subject: CANINE DNA TESTING and DNA profiling LINKING with
DNA parentage testing
To: The GSD
Breed Council & BAGSD & The GSD League (The GSD-UK Partnership)
I am very
interested in a DNA Parentage Testing System being introduced in the
UK for German Shepherd Dogs. I would also wish this to be linked
with an Identification System of a Tattoo/Microchip requirement.
I contacted the
Animal Health Trust by telephone and discussed at length what they
currently offer, following which I wrote my email below to
the persons I was advised could provide the answers to my
consequential questions.
I received a reply
from Nigel Holmes (below) and his reply offers considerable
potential for the introduction of a DNA Parentage Testing System
within the United Kingdom for our breed.
I would NOT hold my
breath waiting for the Kennel Club to facilitate this, however with
our new and potentially very promising GSD-UK Partnership being
inaugurated recently, I felt this issue would be perfect for them to
facilitate for our breed here in the UK. This would clearly
demonstrate that the GSD-UK Partnership are proactive in introducing
valuable Systems into the UK for our breed, in line with their
individual Organisations history in relation to The Hip Scheme, The
Tattoo Scheme and Haemophilia testing scheme.
I hope the GSD-UK
Partnership will pursue this initiative with some vigour and
determination, Our breed needs such an approach with its attendant
publicity, it will certainly generate enthusiasm and support for
your current dealings with The Kennel Club.
I have emailed
Reinhardt Meyer SV National Breed Warden, separately regarding
compatibility of the AHT and SV DNA Parentage Tests. I can forward
you a copy of my email if you wish.
Best regards
David Payne
VIDEX GSD
From:
NIGEL HOLMES (Animal Health Trust
(AHT)
Sent:
09 January 2009 15:00
To: David Payne; MARK VAUDIN
Subject: RE: CANINE DNA TESTING - LINK ON MY WEBSITE? and DNA
profiling LINKING with DNA parentage testing
Dear David,
Thank you for your e-mail
Please do go ahead and put a link to our web-site.
We do offer profiling and parentage. although the two schemes are
not identical.
Our parentage
service is currently run on a confidential basis to the client -
however, if GSD clubs wanted us to set up a system where results
could be released to the club or clubs then we could certainly do
that. it would be made clear on the form that results would be sent
on a regular basis to a third party and clients would then sign to
confirm that they had read and agreed with those terms. Any breeder
not signing could not, therefore, submit a sample for that
profiling/parentage service. The current DNA profiling service is a
separate scheme from our parentage scheme - the profiling scheme is
in fact run jointly with the Kennel Club whereas the parentage
scheme is not.
I am not sure
why our results would not be compatible with those of other
laboratories, such as those in the SV Germany scheme that you quote.
However, the current situation for DNA profiling of dogs is not as
straightforward as it could be and there are several standards in
operation. We use a standard from the International Society of
Animal Genetics (ISAG) which is supported by a two year
international comparison test run by that organisation - this
enables us (and other laboratories around the world) to standardise
the profiles which we hold on our databases and ensures that the
profiles from one laboratory are compatible with those from other
laboratories. We can therefore exchange profiles with other
laboratories and use those profiles, for example for verifying
parentage. The original ISAG standard (ISAG2004) has now been
replaced by another standard ISAG2006. We can do profiles to either
standard, although our joint AHT/KC Profiling Scheme is run on
ISAG2004. We do however do parentage analysis to ISAG2006. I would
need to know a little more about the technical details of the SV
Germany scheme to be able to confirm whether their profiles are
compatible with either of these ISAG standards - although most
European testing labs do use the ISAG standards.
I hope that
answers your questions,
Regards,
Nigel Holmes (AHT)